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Lowering The V65 Magna

Lowering Overview
When I shortened the Magna, I took into consideration some basic concepts.  IMO the front fork is too long, and the same for the wheelbase. The longer front fork weakens the suspension, and the fork travel is excessive. Honda did this to give it more of a 'cruiser' style, and also, I guess, to fit a wider variety of people. So I postulated that 'shortening' the front fork would have the effect of strengthening & tightening the front end. It would also shorten the wheelbase minutely. If the stock ratio's were kept, (i.e., shortened the rear as well as the front, by the same amount) the cg would be lower, while keeping the stock front/rear ratios. Combining the lower cg and 'stiffer, more stable' front end, the bike should handle the same, if not better. Also, for us shorter riders, the height reduction is a very welcome thing.

With the above in mind, I did some measurements and calculations, over about a month period. I measured the stock height, and both calculated and measured the effects of shortening both the front & rear. After these thorough measurements, I decided to go on with the shortening. I'm glad I did.

The result was a better handling bike. I am very happy with the handling now. I think the combination of tires/suspension mods tunes the Magna to its peak.

Before modifying the suspension at all, be sure to reinforce the existing brace.

Calculating ride height changes from shock length is not an easy task. I found it geometrically challenging, to say the least, and used some mathematical approximations and empirical data on both the front and the rear geometry.

Rear Suspension
The rear modification is self evident. Shorter shocks. The stock Magna comes with shocks that are 14.25" long. The Progressive Suspension 17000 comes in various sizes, including a 14.25" length for the stock Magna. Due to the angle of the shock, and the position on the swingarm, shortening the shock by a certain amount does not lower the bike by the same amount. I figured out the actual amount the bike would be lowered by analyzing the angles and lengths, and came up with the same number PS gave me of 1.2. This is the multiplication factor that relates the amount you shorten the shock to the amount the actual bike is lowered. So, a 13.5" shock would lower the rear end by 1.2*(14.25-13.5)")= .9". PS also informed me that their shocks (17000 series anyway) all had the same length when fully bottomed out. To empirically verify that a 13.5" shock would lower the suspension without causing any clearance problems, I took a stock shock, and measured its normal height, referenced to the mounting bolts. Then I mounted a single shock, and took measurements with that. I let the shock compress all the way until it bottomed out. No clearance problem. Then, I let the suspension up to the point where it would be .75" below its stock height (approximately 13.5"). This seemed great, but when I let it up 1.25" (to maybe lower it a little more with a 13.0" shock) it seemed a bit excessive. Therefore, a 13.5" shock it is. There was one factor I overlooked, and that was spring stiffness. The PS spring is stiffer than stock, so that the bike actually sits a little higher in the back than I calculated. I estimate about .1" higher.

Front Suspension
The front, geometrically is a little easier. The fork makes an angle of about 30 degrees, its rake, so the actual lowering will be multiplied by the cosine of that angle, which is 1.7". This is a crude approximation, but I found it sufficient. Notice that the number is 1.7", which is more than the rear. This was because when I initially did the calculations, I multiplied by the sine of 30 degrees, which is incorrect. So lowering the front fork by 2" lowers the bike by about 1.7". These are approximate numbers, and the calculations for even a simple case are quite complex. For a more exact analysis, the trail must be taken into consideration, and other factors. Being an engineer, I love these puzzles. Note that when the bike is lowered by 1.7", the wheelbase will be shortened by .5". I lowered the front forks by 2" before I realized the error in my calculations, but it worked out great anyway. The way I have the spacers set up, it would be easy in the future to change the 2" spacer to a 1", which I may yet do.

Front Suspension Technical Details
To lower the front suspension, I made the decision that I didn't want to change the stock spring/spacer rate. I wanted the preload and geometry the same, just a little lower. This resulted from my road education in the suspension disaster. Upon discussions with PS on how to do this, they related to me details about kits they sell for more popular bikes. These kits consist of spacers and replacement top out springs, which when inserted into the forks, cause the front to sit lower, and keep the stock preload. This is a hard thing to imagine, not knowing that much about the pieces of the forks, so the following paragraphs will describe in detail exactly how the front is lowered. The following photo shows the major pieces of the fork assembly.

I want to stress that I did not just cut the spring spacers. This would lower the bike, but it would also cause the front springs to be compressed less than stock . . . not a good idea, if you read my horror story.
 

The way the suspension is set up is that the fork tube is free to move up and down with respect to the slider (or Visa-versa, depending on your reference point). Attached (Bolted) to the bottom of the slider is the piston, which sits inside the fork tube inside the slider. The piston is just another tube, with a bolt hole at one end, and a "stop" at the other end. This bottom of the piston (with the help of the "top out spring") stops the fork tube from moving all the way up, and is the top bound of the suspension travel (fully extended). The top of the piston is where the fork spring sits, and the fork spacer sits on top of that. There is a small spring, called the "top out spring" (about 1" long) in between the bottom of the stop and the bottom of the fork tube, so that when the suspension is fully extended, the assembly will hit the spring, not the piston. There is tension in this at all times, and the spring usually only comes into play when the suspension is fully extended. 

If the top out spring were longer, this would cause the fork tube to sit lower in the slider, but would also lessen the space between the top of the fork tube and the top of the stop, effectively compressing the fork spring more than normal. The trick is to insert spacers between the top out spring and where it sits on the piston. This lowers the fork tube in the slider by the exact amount of the spacers. Now, to keep the "stock" spring compression, the fork spring spacer must be cut off by the same amount as the length of the spacers. For example, on my V65, I inserted two 1" spacers in between the top out spring and the slider tube (in the assembly). Then I cut the fork spring spacer down by 2". This sat the bike 2" lower, and kept the stock spring tension/rate. Below are drawings of the front fork, which should make this discussion easier to understand. 
 
 

 
 

  Spacer and Top-Out Spring

  Spacer On Spring

 
Stock Fork  


Modified Fork

The spacers I described above are made out of cylindrical brass stock, but aluminum would be just as good. It is advisable to have some made in increments of ¼", say one ¼" long, two ½" long, and one 1" long for each side. This way you can fine tune the height of the suspension. For each top out spring spacer insertion, the fork spring spacer must be equivalently shortened.

Remember, that now that the bike is sitting lower, the brake lines will have a tendency to loop around, since they have to travel 2 less inches. This wasn't a big difficulty on mine, even though I have the braided steel lines, which are a lot less forgiving than the stock rubber ones.
The modification is completely reversible, even if the spring spacers are cut, you can easily make up the space with any type of spacer, even the cut pieces of the original one.